Fuge plumbing

Madison Area Reef Society - Club and reef discussion

Moderator: BraenDead

Fuge plumbing

Postby spbreeder on Mon Feb 14, 2005 2:47 pm

My overflows came so I am trying to do this plumbing crap. Let me catch you up to date on my plan, then we'll get into flaws and frustration.

I have a 125 for which I am trying to set up a sump/fuge. I also have a 29 I was going to use for the fuge which would be placed on the left side of the main tank. I have two lifereef overflow boxes rated at 700 gph each. My plan was to have one overflow go straight into the sump, and the other get split via a y joint between the sump and fuge (which I would have drilled to allow overflow into the sump). I have a Mag drive 1800 for a return pump, which has been adapted to a 1 1/2" size from 3/4" outflow.

Alright, flaws and frustration........

The overflows are longer than I thought they would be so i don't think I can fit a y joint and still have room. Here is a photo.Image

Image
Ok 2. The fitting I have on there now is a T, meaning that the water would flow at approx 90 deg. angle. I am no engineering whiz, but that doesn't sound right. I think I can maybe cut an inch or 1 1/2" off the stools the fuge is on to lower it a bit, but then I may have to get a lower sump or keep the water level lower in the fuge.

Now for the return. It is going in the stand. I am going to need to veer it out the back and up and over. Can I just use curved pieces of PVC or would it be better to use flexible tubing?

Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, Denise
spbreeder
 
Posts: 787
Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2004 9:43 pm
Location: Black River Falls

Postby Ereefic on Mon Feb 14, 2005 3:18 pm

Question for you. How is the water going to get from the fuge, back to the main tank or sump, wherever it is going? Is one overflow going on the main tank and the other on the fuge?

If it were me, I would use one overflow on the maintank and one on the fuge. Let them both drain into the sump. Run the return pump up, split it to both tanks and use a ball valve by each output of both tanks so you can control the flow to each tank. Do you follow?
User avatar
Ereefic
Site Admin
 
Posts: 1303
Joined: Sat Aug 07, 2004 9:18 pm
Location: Janesville

Postby spbreeder on Mon Feb 14, 2005 3:29 pm

OOps, I just realized this is in the wrong forum. Bonk :oops:

I kind of understand you. I thought 700 gph would be too much for a 29ish gal tank. If I could use the ball valve to control the flow to/from the fuge would the overflow boxes keep up with the pump?
spbreeder
 
Posts: 787
Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2004 9:43 pm
Location: Black River Falls

Postby Ereefic on Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:13 am

700 gph is the max the overflow will handle. You don't have to run that threw it. What you need to watch out for is NOT running enough through the overflow because it will accumulate bubbles in the u-tube and can cause your syphon to be lost, resulting in a flood. I don't know what the lowest limit that can run threw the overflow, that's something you'd have to play with.
User avatar
Ereefic
Site Admin
 
Posts: 1303
Joined: Sat Aug 07, 2004 9:18 pm
Location: Janesville

Postby spbreeder on Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:35 am

I am concerned that the return pump may be too high, How do you even that out?
spbreeder
 
Posts: 787
Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2004 9:43 pm
Location: Black River Falls

Postby Ereefic on Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:44 am

A ball valve after the pump can restrict the output. Also, the ball valves by your outputs to the 2 tanks will do the same thing.
User avatar
Ereefic
Site Admin
 
Posts: 1303
Joined: Sat Aug 07, 2004 9:18 pm
Location: Janesville

Postby spbreeder on Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:15 am

Thanks, I am going to continue to putter with it and I am sure there will be more questions later. Denise
spbreeder
 
Posts: 787
Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2004 9:43 pm
Location: Black River Falls

Postby Ereefic on Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:19 am

OR you could just trade me your Mag 18 for the Mag 12 I have sitting here doing nothing, if the Mag 18 proves to be too much. :lol:
User avatar
Ereefic
Site Admin
 
Posts: 1303
Joined: Sat Aug 07, 2004 9:18 pm
Location: Janesville

Postby Brad_608 on Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:45 pm

eric what would you like for that 12
I need a pump bad
I'm unemployable Yeah
Brad_608
 
Posts: 143
Joined: Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:26 pm
Location: Reedsburg, wi

Postby Ereefic on Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:54 pm

I have a use for it, but a Mag 18 would work better. So i'm not looking to sell it.
User avatar
Ereefic
Site Admin
 
Posts: 1303
Joined: Sat Aug 07, 2004 9:18 pm
Location: Janesville

Postby spbreeder on Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:20 pm

All right Brad, keep your grubby mitts off. :lol: :lol: Eric, I'll let you know. I have never even tried the 18 so I don't know if it'll be too much or not. Now, I need to find a way to get my little tank drilled. Denise
spbreeder
 
Posts: 787
Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2004 9:43 pm
Location: Black River Falls

Postby Ereefic on Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:33 pm

The lite haus or light haus in Madison will drill it. You have to bring the tank to them and it might take a couple of days. Just make sure what there drilling is not tempered glass. And make sure the proper hole size is but for the bulkhead you wanna use. Don't know if bringing it there is an option or not.
User avatar
Ereefic
Site Admin
 
Posts: 1303
Joined: Sat Aug 07, 2004 9:18 pm
Location: Janesville

Postby BraenDead on Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:00 pm

Moved the thread to the current forum

Bob
BraenDead
Site Admin
 
Posts: 1731
Joined: Fri Aug 06, 2004 4:37 pm
Location: Madison

Postby spbreeder on Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:42 pm

Thanks. :oops:

We did speak of a trade......
spbreeder
 
Posts: 787
Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2004 9:43 pm
Location: Black River Falls

Postby BraenDead on Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:44 pm

No Problem :) Just helping keep things organized
BraenDead
Site Admin
 
Posts: 1731
Joined: Fri Aug 06, 2004 4:37 pm
Location: Madison

Next

Return to MARS General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests