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Who do MARS members like in Nov.?

Postby Ereefic on Sat Sep 27, 2008 9:22 am

Just curious who we like in November. The voting is anonomous, so don't be shy! :D

I will leave this thread open as long as we remain civil and respectful of others and there opinions. No reason we can't do that, right? :wink: Participate if you'd like.
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Re: Who do MARS members like in Nov.?

Postby Rueg on Sat Sep 27, 2008 10:26 am

I was hoping the debate would puch me one way or ther other. But no, still undecided.
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Re: Who do MARS members like in Nov.?

Postby Falcon57 on Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:50 am

Considering that both of the major party candidates are bought and paid for by the same people that engineered the current financial crisis and raping of the American People, there are better candidates out there. I for one will be voting for Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party.
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Re: Who do MARS members like in Nov.?

Postby cr8signs on Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:33 pm

After the last two elections and the last primary, I 'm not really sure our votes even matter/count.
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Re: Who do MARS members like in Nov.?

Postby MattyS on Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:23 pm

im going with obama, they said on the radio that this just might be the highest number of african american voters to date. but i dont know how true that really is comming from radio :lol: ...

Ive also heard that if McCain is elected he will be drilling off the coast of Florida...??? not sure about this one either since its heer-say to me anyways, but im pretty sure that would be devestating to the wildlife around those areas.
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Re: Who do MARS members like in Nov.?

Postby DDD33 on Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:34 am

I probably should even throw this out there, but here goes. Matty S. brought up a wonderful stat in the increase in African American voter turn-out. My problem stems from a recent poll that said that Obama may lose based on racism (losing 6-9% of the vote of white people). Why is there no questioning of the overwhelming vote of African Americans for Obama, or women for Hillary or Palin. Are these votes based almost exclusively on appearance also? Let me preface that I am part Native American, my wife's uncle is from India, are best friends in Sheboygan are Hmong and one of my two room mates in college was black. I try and see people for who they are not what they look like, but I get tired of hearing that if I (white male) don't agree with someone of a different race, sex or religion I must be a racist. Is it any less racist that minorities would not vote for McCain than for conservative white America not vote for Obama? Just a question, not an attack??
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Re: Who do MARS members like in Nov.?

Postby nasanek on Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:37 am

For the first time in my life I'm kind scared about the election. I thought there was no way in hell people would vote for four more years of W's deception and abuse of the constitution. I was obviously in the minority. I know Obama is still a politician, but at least he's not another crotchety old white dude who will continue running the country into the ground. And I don't mean any offense to Falcon57, but why would you vote for someone that has absolutely no chance? I had a roomate that voted for Nader many a years ago and he gave some crappola line that "you have to believe in the beauty of your dreams". Which, although touching, seems more than a little naive. The political system isn't about beauty and dreams 99% of the time, it's about picking the person that has the least chance of screwing things up. Just my 2 cents...
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Re: Who do MARS members like in Nov.?

Postby MattyS on Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:46 am

nasanek wrote:For the first time in my life I'm kind scared about the election. I thought there was no way in hell people would vote for four more years of W's deception and abuse of the constitution. I was obviously in the minority. I know Obama is still a politician, but at least he's not another crotchety old white dude who will continue running the country into the ground. And I don't mean any offense to Falcon57, but why would you vote for someone that has absolutely no chance? I had a roomate that voted for Nader many a years ago and he gave some crappola line that "you have to believe in the beauty of your dreams". Which, although touching, seems more than a little naive. The political system isn't about beauty and dreams 99% of the time, it's about picking the person that has the least chance of screwing things up. Just my 2 cents...


Right on!!, Nick =D> =D>
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Re: Who do MARS members like in Nov.?

Postby Rueg on Tue Sep 30, 2008 2:39 pm

I believe people had the same type of attitude during the last election. Things like 'you are going to vote republican - you’re dumb - they don't have a chance of winning ' are not going to sway people to vote democratic. If anything it will push the person to vote republican.

Vote for the candidate you want to win whether they have a chance or not. That is why they are on the ballot - and if they are not on the ballot then you can write them in. Voting for whom you think will win is not exercising your constitutional right to vote for whoever you want to win.

Hopefully this next election will not be so close for votes. No hanging chads!`
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Re: Who do MARS members like in Nov.?

Postby nasanek on Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:37 pm

Oh man, the hanging chads, I was in FL for that election...what a nightmare! I apologize if my rant came off as "democrats are better than republicans". I would never generalize so hastily. I'm sure there's lots of good stuff about lots of republicans, McCain included. What I percieve as the "bad" stuff (pro-life, privatization of health insurance, lack of interest in funding science, trickle-down economy, endless war in iraq, etc.) just outweights anything that could be good, IMHO.

I totally get your point about voting for who you personally WANT to win. I just feel like, in a close election, where there are only 2 plausible candidates, voting for a third candidate is not really going to help you out, unless you really couldn't care less who wins between the 2 main contenders (which I guess was Falcon57's point in the first place).
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Re: Who do MARS members like in Nov.?

Postby Sula on Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:15 pm

nasanek wrote: unless you really couldn't care less who wins between the 2 main contenders

This kinda reminds me of the year when Ross Perot was running. It was obvious that he couldn't really win, but so many people were unhappy having to choose between the lesser of 2 evils that they voted for Perot. It was seen, at the time, as a call for change in the system. Somehow it doesn't feel like that really happened...
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Re: Who do MARS members like in Nov.?

Postby Falcon57 on Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:29 am

MattyS wrote:
nasanek wrote:For the first time in my life I'm kind scared about the election. I thought there was no way in hell people would vote for four more years of W's deception and abuse of the constitution. I was obviously in the minority. I know Obama is still a politician, but at least he's not another crotchety old white dude who will continue running the country into the ground. And I don't mean any offense to Falcon57, but why would you vote for someone that has absolutely no chance? I had a roomate that voted for Nader many a years ago and he gave some crappola line that "you have to believe in the beauty of your dreams". Which, although touching, seems more than a little naive. The political system isn't about beauty and dreams 99% of the time, it's about picking the person that has the least chance of screwing things up. Just my 2 cents...


Right on!!, Nick =D> =D>


The point is that Both Obama and McCain are hard core big-government socialists and no better than the previous Presidents. The people need to voice their displeasure in the choices they are given by the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations). Whether or not alternative candidates have a chance to win, the people will tell the globalists that they want better choices and better leadership and to retain their independence and freedom. More and more people are waking up to this reality.
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Re: Who do MARS members like in Nov.?

Postby ReefZoo on Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:40 pm

I'm an Independent and thought I would have a tough time selecting between Obama & McCain. But a couple of things have convinced me to support Obama. First off, the general tone of the campaigns. It pretty much boils down to Hope vs Fear (I've come to view the "Straight" Talk Express as the SMEAR talk Express). Then, the selection of VPs told me a lot about the judgment of the two candidates (I think Sarah Palin was a very poor selection). Bottom line, is that I had a lot of respect for McCain coming into this campaign, but it has almost completely dissipated due to it's overwhelming negative nature & the decisions he's made during the past few months...
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Re: Who do MARS members like in Nov.?

Postby pangea on Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:43 am

It's politics. They are politicians.

I don't vote based on emotions and believe campaign ads should not be allowed.
I'm voting McCain because of his history,voting record and sound judgement on very difficult issues.
Bottom line based on that, I think McCain can deliver what he says.
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Re: Who do MARS members like in Nov.?

Postby ReefZoo on Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:31 am

pangea wrote:I'm voting McCain because of his history,voting record and sound judgement on very difficult issues.
Bottom line based on that, I think McCain can deliver what he says.


I would have wholeheartedly agreed with that statement 5-10 years ago. But not today... A lot of the points made in this article illustrate how I came to my decision on who to vote for:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/164498
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